Used car warranty/servicing in Finland

[olegin]

Moi.

I am considering getting a used BMW but it is from a private seller which means no warranty but is cheaper than dealer. Which companies in Finland offer used car warranty? Do BMW offer one directly?

The car is a 2007 118i, with the N43 engine so I want to have the safety is something should happen with the timing chain. The car has done 160k km so not too bad but I wanted to hear what people on here use/have for warranty?

And if there are any good or specialist bmw garages that people on here go to service their cars, around Helsinki area?

Kiitos!

[Vecara]

Hello!

There are only few companies who sells extra warranty for used cars, when seller is private. BMW doesn´t offer that.

One is insurance company IF, who sells it also when you have already bought a used car, but less than 8 days before.

Car has to be (in your case, everything fits):
* Less than 13 years old
* Less than 175 000 km on odometer
* Certain brand (BMW included)
* Smaller than 3L engine

https://www.if.fi/web/fi/henkiloasiakkaat/vakuutuksemme/auton-kuntoturva/pages/myontamisperusteet.aspx

For your another question I can´t answer, sorry.

[bmw323it]

Regarding independent BMW shops in the vicinity of Helsinki, I would recommend Schmiedmann in Konala and Bemu in Tuusula. I have used both of them and I do not have anything but good experiences to share.

[E39Fin]

I really suggest that you buy the car from a private seller and bring it to Bemu Oy for a timing chain replacement. That's the best warranty you can get for the car

It might cost a bit to do the replacement but if you could use that to negotiate the price down a bit, it might be handy. Replacing the timing chain etc will secure your N43 for many years to become so it is totally worth the cost!

[olegin]

Thanks for the replies guys!

I really suggest that you buy the car from a private seller and bring it to Bemu Oy for a timing chain replacement. That's the best warranty you can get for the car

It might cost a bit to do the replacement but if you could use that to negotiate the price down a bit, it might be handy. Replacing the timing chain etc will secure your N43 for many years to become so it is totally worth the cost!

You don't work at Bemu by chance?
I can actually source bmw parts easily myself it's just the fitting and labour costs that I would need to pay for so perhaps that wouldn't break the bank too much.

[pyroz]

Thanks for the replies guys!



You don't work at Bemu by chance?
I can actually source bmw parts easily myself it's just the fitting and labour costs that I would need to pay for so perhaps that wouldn't break the bank too much.

Timing chain replacement on N43 is easily 2k€ even if you purchase the parts yourself.

[olegin]

Timing chain replacement on N43 is easily 2k€ even if you purchase the parts yourself.

that's caught me off-guard! 1k maybe I expected but 2k is too much. Might as well wait to get 6-cylinder again so I don't live in constant fear. If only there was more of a selection on nettiauto.

[j-a]

that's caught me off-guard! 1k maybe I expected but 2k is too much. Might as well wait to get 6-cylinder again so I don't live in constant fear. If only there was more of a selection on nettiauto.

Perhaps it's worth considering to import one from Sweden/Germany and register it to Finland. But I guess there is not a huge selection of 6-cylinder 1-series anywhere.

[Dualfun]

Timing chain replacement on N43 is easily 2k€ even if you purchase the parts yourself.

And then you woke up and let the cat out?

2k probably in the ballpark when using original parts, but by using OEM parts (exact match by even BMW Original manufacturer) you can do with way less.

People who think evil with regards to BMW and service costs should drive something totally different. But good luck with any modern BMW or other make of your preference to find one without any potential issues If you prefer perfect life cycle and easy living try some of the ancient BMWs with M50 engines, join the historic car club with you daily driver and wear a nice granpa hat.

No offence intended, just yapping about the same story you can read every day.

You buy it you drive it, you break it you fix it. Simple.

[pyroz]

And then you woke up and let the cat out?

2k probably in the ballpark when using original parts, but by using OEM parts (exact match by even BMW Original manufacturer) you can do with way less.

You know the same guys than I do who just did this to an N43. A bit less than 1,5k€ were the parts only when bought NOT from BMW, but good quality parts ordered online with good price. This also is not a "do it yourself in the parking lot in 2 hours" kind of thing. And the original poster also stated that this would be done by a workshop, not own hands. 500€ for labor is not too far fetched I would say...

[Dualfun]

You know the same guys than I do who just did this to an N43. A bit less than 1,5k€ were the parts only when bought NOT from BMW, but good quality parts ordered online with good price. This also is not a "do it yourself in the parking lot in 2 hours" kind of thing. And the original poster also stated that this would be done by a workshop, not own hands. 500€ for labor is not too far fetched I would say...

Yeh, I do know and fully agree. But they also did a full set of parts to make the car back to "brand new" state mechanically. This involved an extra on the bill. If you limit the parts exchange to chain, guide rails, vanos sprockets, crankshaft sprocket - the most obvious ones you would end up much less.

Anyways, we are off the thread, and to get back on track just saying that in Finland warranties don't usually come by in any form when making business with individuals. I actually didn't know about insurance from IF - that sounds interesting if it really covers mechanics without too much fine prints!

[olegin]

You know the same guys than I do who just did this to an N43. A bit less than 1,5k€ were the parts only when bought NOT from BMW, but good quality parts ordered online with good price. This also is not a "do it yourself in the parking lot in 2 hours" kind of thing. And the original poster also stated that this would be done by a workshop, not own hands. 500€ for labor is not too far fetched I would say...

Correct, no way would I attempt a timing chain job. Around the 500€ ballpark for labour seems right in my opinion, but 1.5k for parts?? Surely not unless there's other things included other than the timing chain kit. Febi timing chain kits can be had from German ebay for less than 200€ (https://www.ebay.de/itm/Febi-47659-S...e/263319822120)

[Doni]

Correct, no way would I attempt a timing chain job. Around the 500€ ballpark for labour seems right in my opinion, but 1.5k for parts?? Surely not unless there's other things included other than the timing chain kit. Febi timing chain kits can be had from German ebay for less than 200€ (https://www.ebay.de/itm/Febi-47659-S...e/263319822120)

I would always recommend a kit including vanos units. Vanos units in febi kit is "original" BMW parts where you can see BMW part number grinded off. Kit is less than 700 euros. It is also recommended to remove the oil sump to check and clean it from extra dirt. Once you have oil sump removed, why not add oil pump chain kit from febi less than 100 euros. Replacing vanos solenoids and oil pressure relief valve makes it an extra 400 euros on parts which can of course be changed with decent amount of work later. At least clean solenoid valves.

Of course timing chaing stuff can be made quick and dirty replacing only timing chain and guides. But what if it does not work and then you notice vanos units needs to be changed? It will be the same circus again and work must be carried out again. Needed amount of work is pretty much the same if you do it the "all in" or quick and dirty style.