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  • MRH
    Bimmer Rookie
    • Aug 2007
    • 64
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    #16
    Jep samaa vikaa esiintyy täälläkin, kierrokset hummaa edes takaisin siinä 1700 rpm kohdalla pintakaasulla. Eräs asentaja epäili, että hiukkassuodattimen aiheuttamalla vastapaineelle olisi jotain tekemistä "ominaisuuden" kanssa, asiantuntijat kertokoot kantansa.

    Ulkomaan foorumeilla törmäsin tälläiseen kikkaan automaagin kanssa:
    1. virrat päälle
    2. kaasupedaali pohjaan n 30 sek ajaksi
    3. Automaatin muisti nollautuu?

    Tiedä onko tuosta mitään hyötyä, tässä linkki:

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    • viktor
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      • Aug 2006
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      #17
      ...................
      Last edited by viktor; 18-01-2010, 02:25.
      ///M5
      "Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed or survive."

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      • jaki
        Bimmer Enthusiast
        • Sep 2003
        • 2979
        • Uusimaa

        #18
        Originally posted by poke View Post
        Missä teetätit softapäivituksen? merkkihuollossako vai? laatikon softaa saa myös karalalta ainaskin.
        Laakkosella tietysti, autoon siis ajettiin uusin CIP. Sitten varoitus: merkkihuolto ei anna mitään takuuta, että homma menee läpi; homma voi täysin varoittamatta pysähtyä johonkin boxiin ja siitä ei pääse eteenpäin muuten kuin vaihtamalla se uudemman firmiksen/hardiksen omaavaan. Ostaessani vajaat pari vuotta sitten Saksasta autoa, myyjäliike (BMW) teki siihen ennen luovutusta tuon CIP-päivityksen. Homma pysähtyi ja joutuivat vaihtamaan DDE:n. Onneksi ei mennyt minun piikkiin...Auto oli 12/03. Tämä uudempi on 3/04 ja siihen sai uusimman version mikä oli keväällä olemassa. Näin päivityksen login, siinä tuli herjaa useassa kohdassa, että jonkun boxin firmis ei ole up-to-date, mutta ne oli hypätty enterillä eteenpäin. Onneksi meni läpi ilman purkkien vaihtoa.
        Vai Karalalta laatikkosoftaa jepu jep. Se varmaan on sitten oikein hyvä. Ei kai jengi ihan tosissaan näillä kyläsepillä ala autojaan päivittämään?
        BMW diagnostiikkaa & korjaukset, uutena FRM3 flash korjaukset www.jakiltech.fi

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        • poke
          BTCF Member
          • Feb 2005
          • 3128

          #19
          Originally posted by jaki View Post
          Laakkosella tietysti, autoon siis ajettiin uusin CIP. Sitten varoitus: merkkihuolto ei anna mitään takuuta, että homma menee läpi; homma voi täysin varoittamatta pysähtyä johonkin boxiin ja siitä ei pääse eteenpäin muuten kuin vaihtamalla se uudemman firmiksen/hardiksen omaavaan. Ostaessani vajaat pari vuotta sitten Saksasta autoa, myyjäliike (BMW) teki siihen ennen luovutusta tuon CIP-päivityksen. Homma pysähtyi ja joutuivat vaihtamaan DDE:n. Onneksi ei mennyt minun piikkiin...Auto oli 12/03. Tämä uudempi on 3/04 ja siihen sai uusimman version mikä oli keväällä olemassa. Näin päivityksen login, siinä tuli herjaa useassa kohdassa, että jonkun boxin firmis ei ole up-to-date, mutta ne oli hypätty enterillä eteenpäin. Onneksi meni läpi ilman purkkien vaihtoa.
          Vai Karalalta laatikkosoftaa jepu jep. Se varmaan on sitten oikein hyvä. Ei kai jengi ihan tosissaan näillä kyläsepillä ala autojaan päivittämään?
          No ei tuo Laakkosenkaan touhu kuulosta kyläseppää kummemmalta, jos se kerran tuollasta on. Meillä ei täällä ole BMW-Laakkosta, joten päivitys olisi Hartikaisen hommia. Ko. pulju ei vaan ole minua vielä ammattitaidoillaan hirveesti vakuuttanut. Ehkä on vaan sattunut väärä asentaja??

          Karalan lootasofta on ymmärtääkseni muokattu vastaamaan paremmin dieselmoottorin vääntöaluetta.

          Ainakin minun mielestäni tehtaan softa on kuin bensiinimalliin olisi tehty. Kierrokset nousee aivan turhan ylös ennenkuin tomaatti vaihtaa isompaa (tämä siis SD-asennolla ja nilkka suorana kiihdytettäessä)

          Ja voihan orggis-softan aina palauttaa, jos esim Karalan softa ei sattuisi miellyttämään.
          Kulkineet/projektit:

          M2 F87
          530iA E39
          635 CSi E24
          518i E28 M54B30+ G-power http://www.btcf.fi/forum/showthread.php?t=293876
          1502 http://www.btcf.fi/forum/showthread.php?t=240991

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          • 525TDS Touring
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            • Oct 2004
            • 483
            • Sahalahti

            #20
            Originally posted by jaki View Post
            Vai Karalalta laatikkosoftaa jepu jep. Se varmaan on sitten oikein hyvä. Ei kai jengi ihan tosissaan näillä kyläsepillä ala autojaan päivittämään?
            Niin...Karalalla ja Harisella se ero merkkiliikkeen "erikoisosaajiin", että ne TIETÄÄ mitä ovat tekemässä, ja mitä heidän tekemät muutokset ohjelmiin käytännössä tekee. Merkkiliikkeessä luetaan lippuja ja lappuja ja sanotaan että näin, mutta käytännön kokemusta on todellisuudessa aika vähän. Lisäksi Karala ja Harinen muokkaavat ohjelmat autokohtaisiksi, mihin ei yksikään merkkiliike pysty.
            Ex-525TDSa Touring -98
            Ex-MB E220T CDi -02
            E61 520D -09
            F11 518d -16

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            • viktor
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              • Aug 2006
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              #21
              .................
              Last edited by viktor; 18-01-2010, 02:23.
              ///M5
              "Without debate, without criticism, no Administration and no country can succeed or survive."

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              • jaki
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                • Sep 2003
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                #22
                Originally posted by 525TDS Touring View Post
                Niin...Karalalla ja Harisella se ero merkkiliikkeen "erikoisosaajiin", että ne TIETÄÄ mitä ovat tekemässä, ja mitä heidän tekemät muutokset ohjelmiin käytännössä tekee. Merkkiliikkeessä luetaan lippuja ja lappuja ja sanotaan että näin, mutta käytännön kokemusta on todellisuudessa aika vähän. Lisäksi Karala ja Harinen muokkaavat ohjelmat autokohtaisiksi, mihin ei yksikään merkkiliike pysty.
                Ahaa, siis nuo kyläsepät tietävät paremmin kuin BMW AG :think ?
                Eihän Laakkonen sinne mitään "omia" softia lataa, vaan yllämainitun tekemiä. Mietitköhän lainkaan mitä kirjoitit.

                Ostaessani viimeisintä Münchenistä BMW Niederlassung:lta sanoivat ihan saman kuin Laakkonenkin, että eivät ala laittamaan uusia softia, jos auto toimii. Niin kuin toimikin. Laakkonen laitttoi tosiaan minun vastuulla uusimmat softat.

                Tuo onkin mielenkiintoinen kysymys, jos joudutaan jokin boxi uusimaan (esim mennyt rikki tms). Silloinhan yleensä käsittääkseni homma aloitetaan sillä, että asennetaan uusin CIP ja sitten vasta aletaan tekemään koodaushommia. Entäs, jos tuo päivitys ei mene läpi?
                BMW diagnostiikkaa & korjaukset, uutena FRM3 flash korjaukset www.jakiltech.fi

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                • poke
                  BTCF Member
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 3128

                  #23
                  Originally posted by jaki View Post
                  Ahaa, siis nuo kyläsepät tietävät paremmin kuin BMW AG :think ?
                  Eihän Laakkonen sinne mitään "omia" softia lataa, vaan yllämainitun tekemiä. Mietitköhän lainkaan mitä kirjoitit.

                  Ostaessani viimeisintä Münchenistä BMW Niederlassung:lta sanoivat ihan saman kuin Laakkonenkin, että eivät ala laittamaan uusia softia, jos auto toimii. Niin kuin toimikin. Laakkonen laitttoi tosiaan minun vastuulla uusimmat softat.

                  Tuo onkin mielenkiintoinen kysymys, jos joudutaan jokin boxi uusimaan (esim mennyt rikki tms). Silloinhan yleensä käsittääkseni homma aloitetaan sillä, että asennetaan uusin CIP ja sitten vasta aletaan tekemään koodaushommia. Entäs, jos tuo päivitys ei mene läpi?
                  on ihan selkeää, että merkistä riippumatta autonvalmistajat tekevät kompromisseja mm. moottorin ja laatikon ohjaussoftiin. Miksei joku asiaan erityisellä mielenkiinnolla vihkiytynyt voisi helpostikin löytää jotain paranneltavaa noihin ko. softiin?

                  Näinhän tekee mm. hartge, alpina, kelleners, jne...

                  Jos BMW AG on tehnyt softansa palvelemaan parhaiten suurimpia markkina-alueitaan ei se tarkoita että nuo ko. softat olisi viimeisen päälle hyviä tänne suomen tienopeuksille ja olosuhteisiin. Vai oletko sitä mieltä, että BMW AG:n intressi on tehdä softat juuri suomea/pohjoismaita varten eikä voluumimyyntialueelle?

                  summasummarum: jos joku haluaa asioida merkkihuoltojen kanssa, niin homma on puolestani ok, se on jokaisen oma valinta. Itse kuitenkin kallistun enempi räätälöidyn softan kannalle, olkoonkin se sitten mielestäsi vaikka "kyläsepän" tekemä.
                  Kulkineet/projektit:

                  M2 F87
                  530iA E39
                  635 CSi E24
                  518i E28 M54B30+ G-power http://www.btcf.fi/forum/showthread.php?t=293876
                  1502 http://www.btcf.fi/forum/showthread.php?t=240991

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                  • 525TDS Touring
                    Bimmer Fanatic
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 483
                    • Sahalahti

                    #24
                    Originally posted by poke View Post
                    on ihan selkeää, että merkistä riippumatta autonvalmistajat tekevät kompromisseja mm. moottorin ja laatikon ohjaussoftiin. Miksei joku asiaan erityisellä mielenkiinnolla vihkiytynyt voisi helpostikin löytää jotain paranneltavaa noihin ko. softiin?

                    Näinhän tekee mm. hartge, alpina, kelleners, jne...

                    Jos BMW AG on tehnyt softansa palvelemaan parhaiten suurimpia markkina-alueitaan ei se tarkoita että nuo ko. softat olisi viimeisen päälle hyviä tänne suomen tienopeuksille ja olosuhteisiin. Vai oletko sitä mieltä, että BMW AG:n intressi on tehdä softat juuri suomea/pohjoismaita varten eikä voluumimyyntialueelle?

                    summasummarum: jos joku haluaa asioida merkkihuoltojen kanssa, niin homma on puolestani ok, se on jokaisen oma valinta. Itse kuitenkin kallistun enempi räätälöidyn softan kannalle, olkoonkin se sitten mielestäsi vaikka "kyläsepän" tekemä.
                    Täysin samaa mieltä!!
                    Ex-525TDSa Touring -98
                    Ex-MB E220T CDi -02
                    E61 520D -09
                    F11 518d -16

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                    • Evotec
                      Bimmer Rookie
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 42
                      • Pietarsaari

                      #25
                      Miten nämä laatikot muuten kestää lastutusta? Käytetäänkö 535d:ssä ja 530d:ssä samoja laatikoita?
                      G20 330e M-Sport

                      Ex: F30 330e M-Sport, F11 530xd M-Sport, E91 330xd, Mini Cooper S, E46 330d M-Sport, E36 320i, 2x E46 328i, E46 320d, E46 320i Touring, E36 318iS, E61 530d, E30 325i Touring

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                      • Ricracing
                        Bimmer Rookie
                        • Dec 2005
                        • 45
                        • Helsinki

                        #26
                        Tässä dataa laatikosta (osa 1):


                        VS-22 je Baugruppe/Group: 24
                        24 01 03 (040)
                        weltweit Datum/Date:
                        09/2003
                        6-speed automatic transmission
                        E60, E53
                        Introduction
                        The 6-speed automatic transmissions GA6HP19Z and GA6HP26Z have been jointly developed by BMW and ZF
                        (Zahnradfabrik Friedrichshafen). The 6-speed automatic transmission GA6HP26Z is already in service in the E65.
                        [System overview ...]
                        Both automatic transmissions are available as special equipment (option 205). The automatic transmissions are
                        paired to the engines as follows:
                        E60 engine and transmission
                        Engine GA6HP19Z GA6HP26Z
                        M54B22 X
                        M54B25 X
                        M54B30 X
                        N62B44 X
                        M57D30TU X
                        E53 engine and transmission
                        Engine GA6HP26Z
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                        N62B44 Standard equipment
                        M57D30TU X
                        The two automatic transmissions differ in the following points:
                        •Different torque converter
                        •Clutches with different number of steel and lined plates
                        In order to absorb the higher torque of the N62B44 and M57D30TU engines, the automatic transmission
                        GA6HP26Z is of a more powerful design.
                        With the Steptronic, the automatic transmissions can also be shifted manually using the selector lever on the centre
                        console (no "shift-by-wire" as on the E65, but rather a mechanical connection).
                        Brief description of components
                        The automatic transmission consists of the following components:
                        - Torque converter with converter lockup clutch
                        The torque of the engine is transmitted to the automatic transmission in 2 ways:
                        1. Hydraulically via the torque converter
                        The torque converter transmits the torque from the engine to the transmission as follows: High engine
                        speeds and low engine torque are converted into low speeds and high torque.
                        2. Mechanically via the converter lockup clutch
                        When the converter lockup clutch is closed, the impeller and turbine wheel are non-positively linked
                        without the influence of friction. This prevents power loss within the torque converter and optimises fuel
                        consumption.
                        The converter lockup clutch ensures that a mechanical link is established between the output shaft of the
                        engine and the input shaft of the transmission. The opening and closing of the converter lockup clutch is
                        regulated in 1st to 6th gear.
                        Up to a transmission oil temperature of approx. 35 C, the converter lockup clutch is neither regulated
                        nor closed.
                        At other operating points, how the converter lockup clutch is regulated depends on other factors such as:
                        - Engine load
                        - Vehicle road speed
                        - Transmission oil temperature
                        - Selected shift program
                        - Oil pump
                        The oil pump is an internal gear pump. The torque converter drives the oil pump using the speed of the
                        engine.
                        The oil supplied by the oil pump has the following tasks:
                        •To cool the torque converter
                        •To lubricate the transmission
                        •To actuate the pistons in the transmission's multi-plate clutch
                        •To control the gearshifts
                        - Multi-plate clutches
                        The automatic transmission requires 5 multi-plate clutches to shift between the 6 gears: 3 input clutches
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                        and 2 brake clutches. [more ...]
                        - Lepelletier planetary gear set
                        The automatic transmission is equipped with a Lepelletier planetary gear set. A Lepelletier planetary gear set
                        is a Ravigneaux set (double planetary gear set) with a single preceding planetary gear set. [more ...]
                        - Mechatronics module
                        The automatic transmission is controlled by the mechatronics module. The mechatronics module is a
                        combination of hydraulic unit and electronics module.
                        The hydraulic unit is the hydraulic section of the transmission control and regulates the valves (e.g. electronic
                        pressure control valves).
                        The electronics module contains the EGS control unit (EGS = electronic transmission control), the sensors and
                        the electrical connections within the transmission.
                        The mechatronics module is controlled from the selector lever as follows:
                        •Electrically: shift pulses from Steptronic
                        •Mechanically: parking lock, position switch
                        [more ...]
                        - Selector lever, drive positions and selector lever position displays
                        The selector lever has the positions
                        P for Park
                        R for Reverse
                        N for Neutral
                        D for Drive (= automatic mode)
                        M/S "M" for manual mode = Steptronic, "S" for Sport program = automatic mode with sporty map
                        Briefly pressing the selector lever to "-" in manual mode causes the transmission to shift down. Briefly
                        pressing it to "+" causes an upshift.
                        The selector lever position display is located in the selector lever trim. [more ...]
                        - Instrument cluster display
                        The selected drive position and transmission program are displayed in the instrument cluster (controlled by the
                        electronic transmission control).
                        > E60
                        Check-Control messages are displayed in the LC display as variable indicator lamps (red and yellow) in
                        the form of symbols. The following Check-Control messages can be shown:
                        •Transmission too hot or overheating (yellow or red indicator lamp)
                        •Selector lever position "P" not engaged (yellow indicator lamp)
                        •Emergency program, transmission fault (yellow or red indicator lamp)

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                        • Ricracing
                          Bimmer Rookie
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 45
                          • Helsinki

                          #27
                          Osa 2:

                          > E53
                          On the E53, the vehicle electrical system distinguishes between the "High" version and the "Low" version.
                          Only 2 warnings (overheating and emergency program) are displayed.
                          •Vehicle electrical system, "High" version
                          Warnings are only given with text.
                          •Vehicle electrical system, "Low" version
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                          Warnings are only given with symbols.
                          - Check-Control messages in Central Information Display (CID) (E60 only)
                          The CID displays detailed information about the Check-Control messages in the instrument cluster.
                          The instrument cluster assumes control on these messages from the body CAN.
                          In addition to the visual display, the Check Control also alerts the driver with acoustic signals. Depending on
                          the importance of the associated message, a single or double gong with varying volume and tone will sound.
                          The instrument cluster controls these warnings by means of the K-CAN. The acoustic warnings are emitted by
                          the multi-audio system controller (M-ASK).
                          The electronic transmission control needs signals from the following components:
                          - Brake light switch
                          The signal from the brake light switch is needed for the function of the selector lever lock and the adaptive
                          transmission control.
                          - Accelerator pedal module
                          The signal from the accelerator pedal module is needed for the adaptive transmission control.
                          - Dynamic Stability Control (DSC)
                          The DSC optimises both driving stability when pulling away or accelerating and traction. Within the limitations
                          of the laws of physics, DSC compensates for driving conditions such as over/understeering. This is achieved
                          by signals concerning driving dynamics, e.g. wheel speed, lateral acceleration, vehicle speed, steering wheel
                          position being sent to the DSC control unit.
                          DSC transmits the processed signals regarding cornering, acceleration and winter identification to the EGS
                          control unit.
                          - Digital engine electronics (DME)/digital diesel electronics (DDE)
                          The transmission is actuated by the DME or DDE sending information about the engine's current operating
                          status (e.g. engine speed or torque) to the electronic transmission control (EGS).
                          The EGS in turn sends information about the current operating status of the transmission back to the DME or
                          DDE and intervenes as necessary in the actuation of the engine .
                          System functions
                          The automatic transmission has the following system functions:
                          - Adaptive transmission control
                          - Overlap control
                          - Starter inhibitor
                          - Parking lock
                          - Warming-up program
                          - Engine intervention
                          - Downshift inhibitor
                          - Reverse gear inhibitor
                          - Selector lever lock (shiftlock)
                          - Standstill decoupling
                          - Removal lock (interlock)
                          - Rock free from snow function
                          - Emergency program
                          Adaptive transmission control
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                          As with automatic transmissions to date, the automatic transmissions GA6HP19Z and GA6HP26Z offer the
                          choice between a comfort program and a sport program.
                          The adaptive transmission control (component of electronic transmission control) adapts the shift
                          characteristics of the comfort program and sport program to the driver's wish and the driving situation. In both
                          programs, the adaptive transmission control changes from a basic map to a performance-orientated map, as
                          required:
                          •Comfort program in selector lever position "D"
                          The comfort program is based on 2 characteristic maps: The XE map (extreme economy) and the
                          E map (economy). The EGS control unit normally selects the economical XE map (= basic map). In
                          case of particular demands (e.g. load requirements), the system will change to the performanceorientated
                          E map. If the input signals change in favour of a more "gentle" driving style, the system will
                          change back to the more economical XE map.
                          •Sport program in selector lever position "M/S"
                          The sport program effects dynamic, sporty shift characteristics. In the sport program, there is the basic S
                          map (sport) and the performance-orientated XS map (extreme sport). If an extremely dynamic driving
                          style is called for, the system will change from the S map to the performance-orientated XS map.
                          The adaptive transmission control takes the following demands into account: driver type, driving uphill or
                          trailer towing, driving downhill, braking deceleration and automatic upshifts, winter program
                          •Adaptation to driver type
                          The adaptation to the driver type is made using the values kick-fast, cornering detection, brake evaluation
                          and constant-speed travel.
                          The driver-type adaptation is restarted each time the vehicle pulls away from a standstill.
                          Kick-fast
                          If the accelerator pedal is depressed rapidly, the shift program is changed accordingly. This is achieved
                          by the detected accelerator-pedal value being compared with threshold values in the EGS control unit.
                          The result of this comparison is the proposal of one of the two possible adaptation programs (XE or E in
                          comfort program, S or XS in sport program).
                          Cornering detection
                          Cornering detection reacts to the vehicle's lateral acceleration with an indirect adaptation to the driver
                          type. Lateral acceleration is considered an indirect statement of the preferred driving dynamics and does
                          not cause an immediate gearshift reaction (downshifts when cornering could negatively affect driving
                          stability).
                          The lateral acceleration is calculated by means of signals from the wheel speed sensors on the front and
                          rear axles and from the yaw rate and the road speed.
                          Brake evaluation
                          The braking action is evaluated in a similar way to "kick-fast".
                          The braking deceleration is measured and compared with threshold values in the EGS control unit. The
                          result of this comparison is the proposal of one of the two possible adaptation programs (XE or E in
                          comfort program, S or XS in sport program).
                          •Driving uphill or trailer towing
                          These functions are based on a comparison of actual car acceleration with a nominal value. From the
                          current engine operating situation, the acceleration with normal load on a level surface is calculated. If the
                          actual acceleration is significantly lower than the theoretical value, the function "Driving uphill or trailer
                          towing" is activated.
                          The associated shift maps allow a high-revving driving style. Undesirable upshifts and frequent
                          up/downshifts are eliminated or greatly reduced.
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                          •Driving downhill
                          If the EGS control unit detects downhill driving, it will automatically shift down a gear if the vehicle's speed
                          picks up. This enhances the engine's braking effect. A downshift is only effected if the engine speed is
                          below the maximum speed of the lower gear.
                          The EGS control unit detects downhill driving on the basis of signals from the throttle valve potentiometer
                          (load), wheel speed sensor (road speed) and brake light switch (brake activation).
                          •Braking deceleration and automatic upshift
                          To decelerate the vehicle, the driver takes his foot from the accelerator pedal and applies the brake as
                          necessary. The gearshift map triggers an upshift when the throttle is closed. These gearshifts are not
                          needed in conjunction with brake applications as they prevent the engine's braking effect from being
                          utilised.
                          The intention to apply the brakes can often be anticipated from the rapid closure of the throttle to zero. If
                          such an action is detected, the upshift is suppressed for as long as the accelerator pedal is in the zero
                          position and the vehicle is in overrun mode.
                          •Winter program (only with selector lever in position "D")
                          The winter program is automatically activated if the drive wheels start to spin even at a low rate of
                          acceleration. The winter program provides enhanced traction by not using 1st gear and executes early
                          upshifts to prevent such reactions when load is changed. The winter program is deactivated if the wheels
                          do not spin for several seconds despite high drive torque.
                          Overlap control
                          Overlap control provides gentle shift characteristics as follows: With overlap control, several multi-plate
                          clutches are in use at the same time. Here, pressure is reduced in the active multi-plate clutch and at the
                          same time built up in the clutch that is about to be activated. The reduction and build-up of pressure is
                          maintained until a synchronised speed is reached. At this point, the hydraulic pressure for the multi-plate
                          clutch to be activated can be built up completely. Overlap control is active for all gearshifts from 1st to
                          6th gear and from 6th to 1st gear.
                          Starter inhibitor
                          It is only possible to start the engine when the selector lever is in position "P" or "N".
                          > E60 starter inhibitor
                          The CAS (Car Access System) evaluates the following signals from the EGS (electronic transmission
                          control) for the start:
                          •Selector lever position "P" or "N" as CAN message via the powertrain CAN
                          •Selector lever position "P" or "N" as signal via the direct wire
                          In principle, the CAN message is used. If this is faulty or invalid, the circuit switches to the signal from the
                          direct wire.

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                          • Ricracing
                            Bimmer Rookie
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 45
                            • Helsinki

                            #28
                            Osa 3 (miten tänne saa pdf:n kopioitua?)

                            > E53 starter inhibitor
                            The EWS (electronic immobiliser) evaluates the following signal from the EGS (electronic transmission
                            control) for the start:
                            •Selector lever position "P" or "N" as signal via the direct wire
                            Parking lock
                            The parking lock blocks the transmission output shaft and so prevents the vehicle from rolling. When the
                            vehicle is stationary, the parking lock is engaged purely mechanically via the selector lever (Bowden cable
                            from selector lever to mechatronics module). The parking lock is designed to provide a reliable brake on
                            gradients up to 32 .
                            Warming-up program
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                            The warming-up program is activated after each engine start with the engine temperature lower than approx.
                            60 C. In the warming-up program, the automatic transmission remains in the perfomance-orientated XE or
                            XS map until a certain temperature has been reached. Gearshifts are made at higher engine speeds, allowing
                            the engine and catalytic converter to reach their operating temperatures more quickly.
                            Engine intervention
                            During the gearshift, the EGS control unit emits signals to influence the digital engine electronics (DME) or
                            digital diesel electronics (DDE).
                            The DME then retards the ignition timing for a few milliseconds.
                            The DDE reduces the fuel quantity for a few milliseconds by reducing the injection period.
                            This action briefly reduces the torque, improves shift quality, reduces the load on the transmission and
                            shortens the shifting time.
                            Downshift inhibitor
                            A downshift inhibitor prevents the transmission shifting to a lower gear until the engine speed is below the
                            maximum speed for the next gear down. The engine speed signal is transmitted by the DME/DDE to the EGS
                            control unit.
                            The downshift inhibitor prevents damage to the engine and transmission.
                            Reverse gear inhibitor
                            The reverse gear inhibitor electronically prevents reverse gear from being engaged when the vehicle is
                            moving forwards at speeds above 5 km/h (3 mph). When this speed is exceeded, the corresponding
                            solenoid valves are no longer actuated. This prevents multi-plate clutches B and D (for reverse gear) from
                            being charged.
                            Selector lever lock (shiftlock)
                            The selector lever is locked in positions "P" and "N" by an electromagnet. The electromagnet is actuated by
                            the EGS control unit. The selector lever lock is engaged when selector lever position "P" or "N" is detected
                            and the ignition (terminal 15) is ON. When the vehicle's speed is less than 5 km/h (3 mph), it is only possible
                            to move the selector lever from "P" or "N" when the brake is engaged and the engine speed is no higher
                            than 2500 rpm.
                            Standstill decoupling
                            Standstill decoupling of the torque converter decouples the torque converter from the power train when the
                            vehicle is stationary so that only a minimum of load is retained and fuel consumption is reduced. The
                            decoupling phase is realised by clutch A within the transmission being regulated, depending on the load
                            signal and output speed.
                            Removal lock (interlock)
                            The ignition lock is mechanically linked to the selector lever by a Bowden cable (as on the E38). The removal
                            lock only allows the ignition key to be removed when the selector lever is in position "P". The other way
                            around, the selector lever can only be moved from position "P" when the ignition key is in the ignition lock and
                            turned at least to ignition ON.
                            Rock free from snow function
                            To rock the vehicle free from snow, it is possible to shift between selector lever positions "D" and "R" without
                            the selector lever lock (effective in "N"). With the engine running, the gearshift must be completed within
                            0.5 seconds.
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                            Emergency program
                            The emergency program is activated if the transmission management should fail or detect a malfunction that
                            could lead to critical driving conditions. In the emergency program, the vehicle remains operational, albeit with
                            limitations.
                            If the electronic transmission control fails (without current), the following forward gears can be engaged:
                            Failure in 1st-3rd gear ==> emergency 3rd gear
                            Failure in 4th-6th gear ==> emergency 5th gear
                            3rd gear will be engaged after a restart.
                            Operation
                            The different automatic transmission drive positions are selected with the selector lever.
                            When driving, there are the following possibilities:
                            - D = Automatic mode
                            When the selector lever is in position "D", gears are selected by the adaptive transmission control.
                            - DS = Automatic mode, sport program
                            When the selector lever is moved to the left from position "D" into the shift gate "M/S", the automatic
                            transmission's sport-orientated shift programs are activated. The display in the instrument cluster changes
                            from "D" to "DS".
                            - M1 to M6 = Steptronic
                            If the selector lever is in shift gate "M/S" and is briefly moved to "-" or "+", the electronic circuitry changes to
                            Steptronic and manual mode is activated. The display in the instrument cluster changes from "DS" to "M1" to
                            "M6".
                            In manual (Steptronic) mode, the transmission management will only execute upshifts or downshifts at
                            appropriate engine and road speeds. Gearshifts that would result in an excessively high or low engine speed
                            are suppressed. If an impermissible gearshift is requested, the display in the instrument cluster briefly
                            changes to the gear selected and then back to the current gear.
                            - Upshift only up to the gear required
                            A gear can be stored by repeatedly moving the selector lever to "+" or "-" and then holding it in the one-touch
                            position. The transmission management changes gear in sequence up (or down) to the required gear. The
                            selector lever must be held in position until the required gear has been reached.
                            Notes for service staff
                            Service staff should note the following points:
                            - Service notes: [more ...]
                            - Diagnostics: ---
                            - Encoding/programming: ---
                            - Car and Key Memory: ---
                            Subject to change.
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                            • poke
                              BTCF Member
                              • Feb 2005
                              • 3128

                              #29
                              Originally posted by Evotec View Post
                              Miten nämä laatikot muuten kestää lastutusta? Käytetäänkö 535d:ssä ja 530d:ssä samoja laatikoita?
                              Kaivoin joku aika sitten ZF:n kotisivuilta tietoa: E60 530dA:ssa (ainakin 2004) on ZF 6HP26 joka on ZF:n mukaan mitoitettu kestämään 600Nm vääntö.

                              en tiedä onko sama aski 535dA:ssä. vääntöhän on tässä 580Nm.
                              Kulkineet/projektit:

                              M2 F87
                              530iA E39
                              635 CSi E24
                              518i E28 M54B30+ G-power http://www.btcf.fi/forum/showthread.php?t=293876
                              1502 http://www.btcf.fi/forum/showthread.php?t=240991

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                              • tjvirta
                                Bimmer Rookie
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 95
                                • Espoo

                                #30
                                Nykivää menoa E61 530DA

                                Moi,

                                Kyselen kokemuksia muista samanlaisista. Toimiiko muillakin seuraavasti vai lieneekö tuossa pelissä jotain vikaa?:

                                1. Hyvin rauhallisesti pintakaasulla kiihdytetäessä vaihteen vaihto on joskus todella töksähtävä. Periaatteessa rivakassa kiihdytyksessä toimii pääsääntöisesti hyvin.

                                2. Sport asento on ihan hanurista...kevyessäkin kiihdytyksessä pitää kierroksia korkealla hetken ja sitten jysäyttää isomman sisään niin että tuntuu. Sprot asentoa ei oikeasti voi pitää normaalissa liikenteessä päällä.

                                3. Kylmänä luistaa ihan simona. Ekat 5-10 kilsaa ei saa momentinmuunninta lukkoon ollenkaan

                                4. Muutenkin luistaa omaan makuun ihan liikaa - voi olla ominaisuus. Haluaisin enemmän pitävän laatikon. Nyt pitää painaa kaasua paljon ja laatikko luistaa hervottomasti. (esim jos vaihti hidastunut 70-> 60 ja vaihde 5 on pysynyt pelissä)

                                5. Pitäiskö laatikon olla "mukava". Tää on kaukana esim isäukon 200+tkm ajetusta E-mersusta.

                                Pitää vissiin käydä ottamassa koeajoon käytetty peli vaan testatakseen.

                                Autolla ajettu 113tkm.
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                                G31 520dA Business SportLine 2017

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